Are we talking race or homophobia?
I had an interesting conversation last Saturday at the Blind Pig, which is a great spot to engage in political debate. I was sitting down with my friend Maggie a.k.a Ms. Brown, who I haven’t seen in three years. She has been working ever-so-diligently in the PhD program at Berkeley. Her project is in conjunction with University of Illinois, which also happens to be where she did her undergrad and where we met.
However, before our conversation could begin, one of her colleagues, who seemed very drunk, approached the piano at the Blind Pig and attempted to play it, but before he proceeded to touch the keys, Maggie stopped him.
He got up and backed away from the piano. Then he proceeded to approach our table and obnoxiously chime in our conversation. I gave Maggie a slight nudge under the table, as if to say: please make him go away.
He started talking about how he knows all these gay people in San Francisco and his best friend is a gay black male who studies black male sexuality. Instantly, I knew where this was going. I braced myself.
As he started to speak he explained fanatically that black people, especially black males, are more homophobic then white people. His idea was based solely off of the Prop 8 decision, which is asinine because there is no possible way to effectively measure this claim. It’s as if he is stating that there is a standardized test for being homophobic.
I don’t blame this individual for his notions. He is just a talking head that really has no relation to the crux of the problem.
Listening to his gibberish made me think of how easily people are fooled and manipulated into following the mass media. It’s the same media that reported there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, that the financial bailouts were needed and reported that the Swine Flu was coming to get us, but still we, as a society, trust them as a legitimate source for information.
This trust in mass media has enabled them to portray blacks as being more homophobic then white people.
The right-wing pundits interjected race into the same-sex marriage debate by being the first to indicate blacks voted 70% for Prop 8, which was wrong. The actual percentage was 57%. Also, they repeatedly drew the correlation between blacks voting for Barack Obama (a symbol of change) and blacks voting for Prop 8 (a symbol of discrimination). The right-leaning media also tried to instigate tensions between gay rights protesters and blacks by suggesting they protest black churches instead of the Mormon churches, which raised an estimated 20 million dollars for the Vote Yes for Prop 8 campaign.
This was a political tactic to drive a wedge between two minority groups and people such as Dan Savage and Wayne Benson took the bait.
Dan Savage wrote:
I’m done pretending that the handful of racist gay white men out there - and they’re out there, and I think they’re scum - are a bigger problem for African Americans, gay and straight, than the huge numbers of homophobic African Americans are for gay Americans, whatever their color.
And Wayne Benson wrote:
...there is something particularly galling and repugnant about people who have felt the sting of discrimination, turn around and step on another minority. What happened at the ballot box feels like a personal betrayal and the hijacking of history.
Never mind the fact that Arizona and Florida passed similar ballots. Never mind the fact that only 10% of the voters for Prop 8 were African-Americans. Never mind the fact that No on Prop 8 campaign did not go door to door campaigning in the black neighborhoods or build coalitions with black churches. Toward the end of the campaign they hired Samuel L. Jackson — who is not gay — to be the spokesperson for gay rights in the black community. Why? When there are voices like Angela Davis, Al Sharpton Julian Bond to be heard, we had such voices as Coretta Scott King and Bayard Rustin.
However, none of these facts mattered. What mattered was the gay community needed a scapegoat as to how the most liberal state in the union could pass Prop 8.
This is an example of just how complex the issue of racism really is.
First, the campaign organizers for No on 8 should have gone into the black communities, talked to the people and made solid arguments such as the Loving v. Virginia court case. Instead, they use Samuel L. Jackson in a political ad that didn’t even have images of same-sex black couples. They saw blacks as being a monolithic group that would respond to any black person or voice.
Secondly, in order to create a divide, the right-wing pundits played the race card, using blacks as the singular reason as to why Prop 8 passed.
Next, the liberal media reinforced the right-wing idea that blacks are to blame for the passing of Prop 8.
Liberals like Dan Savage or Wayne Benson used their power and privilege to analyze the black community and pass judgmen — without all the facts — then played their minority-express gay card and claimed that they were the victims, because they’re being discriminated against by black people. Therefore, their frustration toward the black community and claims that homophobic African-Americans are a huge problem are justified.
Simply: not true.
The real victims here are gay black people. Their voices are the only ones not present in this debate.
Race is so deeply ingrained in the collective psyche of our society it’s impossible to just turn it off, stop talking about it, or just pretend that it does not exist. When we pretend to be a color blind society race, these issues do not disappear, they just surface in a much more blaring way. It’s not that any of these groups or individuals are inherently racist — they are not — but this example shows the degree to which race entangles us all. Race matters and the only way to deconstruct its power is to bring it to the surface constructively and deal with it.
The main issue here is not race but homophobia. There are black and white people who happen to be homophobic. Homophobia exists in every community.
Also, just because blacks have felt the blistering sting of discrimination, does not mean we have a special superpower that stops us from discriminating.
We’re all in the same system together and we face the same challenges. Our target is not each other but rather the system that enables people to be homophobic and get away with it. When we create blame and judgment, we take away our ability to understand and our responsibility to act.
3 comments
Sarah W.
I am not sure if the drunk guy at the Blind Pig was speaking just his opinion or drawing on some more reputable sources, but the research does show that black community is more homophobic than other ethnic minorities in the US. The main reason behid it is the strong presence of the Black church and its influence on individuals’ lives and beliefs.
I think that this research and it’s claims as to who is more or less homophobic divides more then anything. It creates a mental barrier that puts a wedge between white and black communities. That barrier stops us from coalition building. Also, what about anti-gay rights in Arizona, Utah, and Florida? These states have passed amendments to ban same-sex marriages. But yet there is no discussion in the mainstream media about whites being homophobic in these states of even California. Highly suspect.
All of this time has been used to discuss black homophobia rather then addressing how we support each other, or addressing the larger picture, which is homophobia wherever it exist.
Who really benefits from this research? How does it add to the national dialogue about LGBT rights?
pets
Then there’s the LDS church who dumped a good amount of money into Prop 8. I find it interesting that folks like to blame black people, stating that they’re more likely to be religious, and ignore the fact that a mostly white church from mostly out of state dropped money and support on that damned homophobic prop.
divide and conquer, i guess. :/
Most Recent Opinion Comments
eugh….I remember that sex ed class and i’m pretty sure I know the teacher you’re referring to. that place was hell.
Love the story about sex ed at the middle school. That’s what I do every day for my job—it’s so exciting to see students engaged in material many adults and parents assume is above their understanding or maturity level. Thanks for sharing! Oh, and if you…
“Rag Doll” by Aerosmith is a great accompanying song when you are throwing a tennis ball onto the floor to bother the people below you.
http://www.news-gazette.com/news/agriculture/2010-09-01/south-farms-taking-aim-birds-noise.html If U of I did any research into repelling birds, they would use a very silent but effective high output LASER instead of adding noise pollution to the already olfactory polluted area http://www.allpestco.com/2009/06/laser-bird-deterrent-or-laser-gun-vs-birds/
What sticks in my neck is that most noise (unwanted sound) is a violation of the law. So why is it often so difficult to get the authorities to address the issue? Why are the anti-social elements so protected? These lowlife induviduals now seem to have the…
Spirit echoes - http://www.iainandjane.com/work/silentsound/index.shtml
People are entitled to peace and quiet. That gift has been lost and once lost is hard to regain. Anti-noise activitists fight for everyone’s right to have peace and quiet. Thanks to those that fight for our right to peace and quiet.
Most Recent Comments
Illinois has simply had no luck at all in these Mizzou games. None. I think maybe we’re do for a couple of bounces to go our way. If we get one or two (or sever or eight) breaks, I think it’s a win.
Jason, Savoy could easily join the CPL tax district, which is probably closer to most Savoy residents than the Tolono library is. But my impression is that Savoy residents as a whole don’t want to pay the cost of the CPL (Tolono’s library taxes are cheaper), even…
Sorry, but I am lagging behind on updates to the map. Also, some construction projects were delayed from their original start date. On a more positive note, I am putting together a map of haunted houses in Central Illinois. I have a few plotted already, and I…
I’ve never gotten the privilege of all the services CPL cardholders get. I just want to be able to go out of my way to drive to the CPL to check out books, pay fines, maybe buy some coffee, and enjoy the library. None of those activities…
These days, there is more to using a library than checking out books. At one time, paying into the Lincoln Trails system probably would cover the expenses incurred by other libraries in the system. Now, with Internet, videos, coffee shops, wireless Internet hubs, etc., I suspect the…
(speaking as a Savoy resident) By paying taxes to support a member of the LTLS, we are paying our “fair share” to use any LTLS library—Tolono, Champaign, Urbana, etc. This is how library systems work. The 6% of CPL’s circulation represented by Tolono users is NOT significant…
I would be interested to hear more about the “word on the street”—how are individual hauling companies fulfilling their promise to recycle?
Timbo makes a smart, sound argument. Reread it.
I joined on 09-09-09 after living here over a year, and having to listen to my dad tell me how his best friend is, like, #27 or something crazy like that, and how said friend never lived further than 50 feet from the Illini Inn while going…
And, I might add, no one is being prevented from using the Champaign library. They are just being asked to pay their fair share if they are going to use it as their primary library.
The equation is pretty simple here. If you want social services, then pay the taxes required to run those social services. These things only work if everyone puts in their fair share. As a heavy user of the Champaign Library, I say bravo to this new policy.
What is the increased marginal cost of serving a resident of Savoy or Mahomet? I suspect negligible. What is the increased revenue to be realized by this new policy? I suspect very little. Aside from these financial aspects, what are the most probable results from this new…
Looks like you are also all members of the killer sideburns club.
Thanks for the article, Ben. I was not familiar with this band until now and even though I won’t be able to attend the show on Friday they are now on my radar. A *good* jam band is hard to find, and these folks appear to fill…
Nice article, love the Dead quote in the beginning. If they can get down here to Central FL I’ll definitely be heading out to the show. Some of my friends have finally stopped wincing when I say “jam band.“ I’ve now tried my best at more descriptive…
@Annie: Yeah, my bad. That was the best part! Drinking + memory exercises = fun @Rob: According to Ask the English Teacher, “My dictionary says ‘drunk’ is an archaic past tense of ‘drink.‘“ We’re all about the new grammar around here.
Katie, have the residents of Savoy and Tolono thought about having their taxes raised a little to help their public library expand? That’s a possibility for them. And then everybody wins.
Most Popular Articles (14 days)
- Camp Rantoul Report: August 20, 2010
- Withershins: the hardest working band in Champaign
- Champaign to close recycling drop-off center

- Pygmalion schedule changes, Emeralds and new Erin Fein project added
- The Burlington Coat Factory Mosque

- Meet the new blog on the block
- CU Pride Fest review
- Flatlander fundraising off to a tasty start
- The right thing changes from state to state
- Garbage doesn’t just “go away”
Recent Searches
- derby (118 Results)
- 1592 (7 Results)
- Susan Toalson (3 Results)
- Gabe (4 Results)
- Bond (97 Results)
- Bond (97 Results)
- Gabe (4 Results)
- bond (97 Results)
- bond (97 Results)
- dan schreiber (34 Results)
- gillespie (129 Results)
- Men Against Sexual Violence MASV (1 Results)
- 8684 (1 Results)
- Men Against Sexual Violence MASV (1 Results)
- great cover up doug hoepker (13 Results)
- great cover up (589 Results)
- C-U Circle (32 Results)
- 4130 (1 Results)
- elsinore (123 Results)
- elsinore (123 Results)

Facebook
Twitter
Full Site
Events Calendar


























Sorry, but I am lagging behind on updates to the map. Also, some construction projects were delayed from their original start date. On a more positive note, I am putting together a map of haunted houses in Central Illinois. I have a few plotted already, and I…