Pygmalion: Schedule announcement and more additions
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Below you will find the final additions to this year's Pygmalion Festival, including a lot of great local acts. And, maybe more interstingly, you will also find the schedule of all of the acts performing. Many of you are probably already aware of the pretty huge artist overlap occurring on the first day of the festival, but if you are not, it's quite a doozy. The festival will also branch out into new venues, with its first-ever shows at the Art Theater and Indigo Gallery. In any case, it looks like it will be a pretty busy (and awesome) weekend of music all around with some tough choices.
Lineup additions:
Psychic Twins
Full Schedule
WEDNESDAY - 9/22
Canopy Club
9:00 - Janelle Monae
10:30 - of Montreal
The Highdive
8:00 - Common Loon
9:00 - Revolt Revolt
10:00 - Built To Spill
THURSDAY - 9/23
Canopy Club
7:30 - World's First Flying Machine
8:15 - Turbo Fruits
9:00 - Santah
9:45 - Cults
10:45 - Fang Island
11:45 - Psychic Twins
12:30 - Surfer Blood
Independent Media Center
7:30 - Mean Lids
8:30 - The Duke of Uke
9:30 - Those Darlins
The Highdive
9:30 - Belly
10:30 - Solo
11:30 - Nameloc
12:30 - Plastician
FRIDAY - 9/24
Canopy Club
8:00 - White Rabbit / Space Police / Famicom (void room)
9:00 - Butterfly Bones (void room)
9:45 - Kosmo
10:00 - Lookbook (void room)
10:30 - Holy Fuck
10:45 - Milk & Cookies (void room)
11:15 - Mertz
11:45 - CZO (void room)
12:00 - Delayney
12:45 - Cut Chemist
Caffe Paradiso
6:30 - Why I Like Robins
7:30 - So Long Forgotten
8:30 - Gold Motel
9:30 - Pomegranates
10:30 - Colour Revolt
Krannert Art Museum
6:00 - The Palace Flophouse
6:45 - Darren Hanlon
7:30 - Art Majors
8:15 - David Dondero
9:00 - Unwed Sailor
9:45 - Owen
The Art Theater
9:30 - Grandkids
10:30 - Candy Claws
11:30 - +/-{Plus/Minus}
12:30 - Elsinore
Mike 'n Molly's
9:15 - New Ruins
10:15 - Light Pollution
11:15 - Tractor Kings
Cowboy Monkey
9:45 - Millimeter Mountain
10:45 - The Kopecky Family Band
11:45 - The Delta Kings
SATURDAY - 9/25
Exile on Main St. (In-Store)
1:00 - Arkansas Dogjaw
2:00 - Sunset Stallion
3:00 - The Fantastic Plastics
Krannert Center for the Performing Arts
7:30 - Ted Leo and the Pharmacists
8:45 - Roky Erickson with Okkervil River
10:30 - Caribou
Canopy Club
10:00 - Withershins
11:00 - Take Care
12:00 - Cap'n Jazz
Mike N Molly's
7:00 - Zach May and the Maps
8:00 - The Viper and His Famous Orchestra
11:00 - Community College
12:00 - Drink Up Buttercup
1:00 - The Poison Control Center
Cowboy Monkey
10:30 - Chain Ga
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11:30 - Royal Bangs
12:30 - The Dirty Feathers
Indigo Gallery
8:45 - Kayla Brown
9:30 - Deathtram
10:15 - Jared Bartman
11:00 - Jimmy Gnecco
(Disclaimer: the co-founder/co-Managing Editor of Smile Politely is also the curator/founder of Pygmalion Festival. And even though we know some of you will remain steadfast in your denial, it's actually true that he doesn't write or edit any of these Pygmalion-type articles.)
27 comments
miles
looks great, but can anyone comment on the conspicuous absence of caribou’s touring partner?
Looks awesome. I can’t wait to see Roky!
Sean Cunningham
Could someone please explain why on earth they would overlap two of the headliners on a fucking Wednesday?! Horrible scheduling, especially for a small festival like this. The headliners are what bring in a lot of people, and now we are forced to choose between two of the three biggest on the bill. I would have reconsidered purchasing my ticket had I known I was forced to choose between Of Montreal and Built to Spill. Why not just put them both at Canopy Club and not piss everyone off?
Sean,
Perhaps their touring schedules only permitted them to play on Wednesday night, and it would be silly to put them on the same bill as they both deserve a headlining spot. It sucks, but this is totally a white person’s problem.
Sean Cunningham
“Perhaps their touring schedules only permitted them to play on Wednesday night”
Perhaps, but if this was the case, why book these two bands? There are plenty of other bands that could fill the spots that BtS and OM currently occupy. The person who did the booking would have had to have known that these bands were only available on Wednesday, so why bother booking both?
Also, I don’t follow your logic regarding it being silly to put them on the same bill. For a festival such as this one, what scenario is more silly: Of Montreal and Built to Spill both play at Canopy Club, allowing the small number of festival attendees to see THE 2 BIGGEST BANDS PLAYING THE FESTIVAL, or schedule them to play at the same time at different venues, forcing people to choose between THE 2 BIGGEST BANDS PLAYING THE FESTIVAL. This type of scheduling truly diminishes the value of a pass to the festival. Complete dropping of the ball by the organizers
Sean,
If you put them on the same bill, who opens for who? Both are big national acts, I’m sure neither of them would want to swallow their pride and travel all this way just to open for another band. Also, Janelle Monae and Of Montreal tour together and I’m sure that was a demand of theirs that they play on the same bill. I don’t agree with when you asked “why bother booking both?” as I’d rather have this difficult decision over no decision at all. Yes, it’s unfortunate, but I would want these acts playing here no matter what the circumstances. Just go see Janelle Monae and Of Montreal…it’ll be more fun!
Just a thought: Of Montreal and Janelle Monae’s stage show is supposed to be pretty tightly integrated for both acts (Kevin was on Pitchfork a while ago talking about this, no?). Maybe it’s more of an issue of not being able to break up the theatrical elements to fit a third band.
The Sandwich Life
huh. now people are complaining about there being too MUCH good music booked. huh.
Sean Cunningham
It doesn’t matter who opens for who, these bands are here to make money, not for anything else. Think about if this were a larger festival, like Bonnaroo for example, these bands would play during the middle of the afternoon, perhaps even one after the other. I doubt there would be an issue with “swallowing pride” and playing first. Look at the Saturday night Krannert Bill for example. Ted Leo, Roky, and Caribou are three of the biggest bands on the lineup, and all play at the same place, one after the other. Why not allow this to happen at Canopy on Wednesday?
As far as your comment that you’d rather have to make this decision than no decision at all, your line of thinking is completely incorrect. If Of Montreal or Built to Spill weren’t on the lineup, it is safe to assume that a band of similar size and cost would be in their place, and if booked correctly, scheduled in a way that allows fans to see both shows.
I think many would agree that this is a huge disappointment, really the first disappointment I’ve ever had with this festival. I’d like to know the thought process of this scheduling.
Sean Cunningham
Ben,
That could certainly be the case, but again, this goes back to the question of booking those two bands in the first place knowing that they would have to play at different venues. Hell, I’d even be happy with staggered show times to at least give people a chance to race back to Canopy Club from the High Dive in time to see Of Montreal.
Can anyone point out another festival that books their two biggest bands playing opposite each other, especially on the first night of the festival (A fucking Wednesday)?
Hi Sean —
Well, geez, I just apologize like heck here, but I thought you should know something about the booking process of a festival like this one: it’s very very very difficult.Swear to G-d. It really is.
And with that said, I could go into ALL of the reasons that having BtS on the same bill with OM / Janelle is an actual impossibility — not limited to things like, agents, managers, egos, production, gear, stage props, sexual innuendos, allergies, and politics — but I won’t. WAY too long to type. But if you want to know all of it, you can email me personally: seth@nicodemusagency.com and I will give you my number. We can chat.
I will, however, state, for the record, that Built to Spill, was a total and complete accident. Honest. Ask Ward. People seem to trust him a lot more than they trust me anyhow, so you can ask him, literally, if you wish, about how it came to be.
But here is my version: I booked of Montreal in April, but wasn’t allowed to announce until July 7 because of Janelle Monae’s summer tour schedule. It was all set. A great great opening night for our little festival.
And then! BOOM! Steve Kaul emails Ward at the end of May, and tells him that Built To Spill is routing through, and they have a hole they might like to fill in a smaller market. SWEET! says Ward — and let’s the know about Pygmalion Music Festival, and loops me in.
So, Ward and I both agree — hmmmm… two shows on opening night? Against of Montreal? FUCK! What should we do?
Oh. Right. The MASSIVELY obvious thing. Book Built to Spill (one of my favorite bands of ALL TIME) at our little humble indie rock festival — and if people complain about the overlap and say things like “the promoters dropped the ball” or “why even book those two artists?” or “this diminishes the value of the festival pass” — go to sleep at night knowing full well that we can only do our best, and that Built to Spill, in the end, was an additional serving of gravy on top of what we still believe to be the biggest and best Pygmalion Festival yet.
Knowing it posed a problem, we even asked BtS’s agent if we could do an early show for them so as to not conflict with the of Montreal show. But they were steadfast — Built to Spill can’t go on before 10 p.m. So again, what are we to do? Not bring Built to Spill to town?
In the end, Sean, for what it’s worth — you aren’t the only person who is disappointed about this fairly-insignificant-but-still-tough-choice: I am too. I love Built to Spill, and I love Janelle Monae. I also love of Montreal. AND I have to run the goddamn thing.
So, I’m in the same boat with you dude.
Again, apologies, but I hope you can still find the value in the festival ticket cost ($65) to see of Montreal and Janelle Monae OR Built to Spill — as well as — Surfer Blood, Those Darlins, Fang Island, Cults, Turbo Fruits, Cut Chemist, Holy Fuck, Plus/Minus, Colour Revolt, Owen, Candy Claws, The Viper and His Famous Orchestra, Ted Leo + Pharmacists, Roky Erickson w/ Okkervil River, Caribou, Royal Bangs, Cap’n Jazz and a whole slew of fantastic fucking local bands.
And, we didn’t even raise ticket prices siginificantly this year, despire spending literally 25% more on talent than we did in 2009.
That’s the truth.
Word.
Sean Cunningham
Seth,
I’m sure the booking process is hard and I’m sure there’s much more to it than any of us would ever realize, but regardless, the bottom line is the two biggest bands at this festival are playing at the same time at different venues. That, in my opinion, is unacceptable. And you say that the “Massively obvious” thing to do was book Built to Spill, but given the circumstances, I think that the money spent on the second biggest band on the lineup could have been put to better use. Just my opinion.
i think i may have the biggest conflict of all. seth, how dare you book pavement all the way out in fucking new york at the same time at built to spill AND of montreal?
(also, everyone worried: just go to built to spill. problem sovled. also i’m super super stroked for the thursday - saturday of this festival.)
Sean —
You are entitled to your opinion. But I would argue that “the two biggest bands” aren’t at the same night at different venues. On what are you basing that statement? On whose standards? Album sales? Ticket sales? Career longevity? Gross potential? If you thought any of those — you are dead wrong, my friend.
Or did you mean, the two bands that you want to see most are at the same night at different venues?
If that is the case, then again, I really do apologize — but perhaps you didn’t really READ BETWEEN THE LINES in my last comment?
Here it is again, in plain language:
The funds that were used on Built to Spill were actually non-existent. They were supposed to go somewhere — anywhere — else towards paying for production, promotion, design, etc etc. We weren’t looking to book ANYONE else at that point. We were already over budget. In a word, this show is a big, fat LOSS.
But, you know, sometimes, you make concessions to make things happen that you think people will find to be special. This was one of those circumstances.
Just making sure you are reading it right. The money that was used to book Built to Spill was not going to be used on any other artists. So, it was Built to Spill, or nothing. Take your pick.
My guess is that most people would rather have Built to Spill at $15, even if it meant not being able to see of Montreal.
Just my opinion, though.
Seth, thank you so much for not telling Built to Spill “no thanks” because of the Of Montreal conflict. I’ve seen Of Montreal four times (and they’re awesome!) but have only gotten to see BtS once, and like you, they’re basically my favorites, ever. That took the festival from being one I was really excited about and looking forward to into “can’t stop thinking about it, extremely giddy, I’m so glad I live in this town” territory.
And yeah, what The Sandwich Life said. So silly.
I’ve never heard either of these bands. Not live; not on CD. Even though I have a festival pass, I wasn’t planning on attending any shows on Wednesday night (I have a day job and I’m old).
However, the passionate comments about these two bands have changed my mind. I’ll be checking them out on last.fm and choosing one.
And Seth, if I like them both equally and my decision turns out to be difficult, here’s some pre-hate for ya:
How dare you?
What the fuck were you thinking?
You own the music scene in this town and you couldn’t get this worked out for everyone?
Dumbass.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I’m really excited about Built to Spill, so much so that I keep coming back to this thread just to be like AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Built to Spill!
Sean, chill out. This sort of scheduling conflict goes with the territory at any festival. Plus, the way the times are spelled out above, it looks like one could realistically catch some of Janelle Monae’s set and still make it back for all of Built to Spill.
I’d also like to note that it looks like of Montreal will be performing for up to 120 minutes at the show, per the contract. And while showing up too late might make it hard to get in because of capacity limitations, it still might be worth a shot to watch some of BtS, and then hoof it over to Canopy to try to beat the crowds.
Wristband holders get priority entrance access this year, as a result of a very scathing but perfectly reasonable criticism from SP.com’s formerly own Brian K’s complaint from last year.
Tim
For whatever it’s worth, I’m just glad Built to Spill is playing in town finally (unless there was some one-off Trito’s show before my time or something). 10-15 years overdue, but happy it’s happening. Thanks Seth & Ward for remedying that.
OM have the better live show, but they play here often enough. BtS probably won’t happen again anytime soon. Therefore: go see OM so I don’t get crowded out. It’ll smell like old people anyway.
Craig
Sean is way off base and out of line here. Offensive stuff. Shameful, really.
Seth, thanks so much for all you do to make this thing happen.
I, like Annie, have seen Of Montreal a bunch of times, but have actually never gotten to see Built to Spill. Easy decision for me.
I’m the opposite as I’ve never seen Of Montreal, but got to hang out backstage with Built to Spill at the Metro in 2002. Not sure which to see. Also glad it’s on a Wednesday as I’m out of town that weekend. Pretty disappointed to miss out on Ted Leo.
+/- & Elsinore at the Art? I wonder how that will go. One of the things I like about Pygmalion is the willingness to book in unusual spaces like Low at the Channing-Murray last year.
Brian K
The system works! Sorry I was an ass though, I was.
Of Montreal is the bee’s knees. I’ll be there decked out in my finest psychedlic-neo-glam-indie-funk regalia.
ID engager is a good entry point for some of OM’s latest stuff if you’re not already familiar with the band.
Croÿ
I don’t see any Caribou ticketing info listed on Krannert’s site—does that perhaps mean it’s this year’s freebie set in the lobby? (‘Cuz that’d be pretty great.)
Alan Turing
Sean you are being a complete ass for no good reason. I won’t be going to Pygmalion because I don’t like Indie Rock (or 99.317% of it’s fans), but I have great respect for the amount of effort that Seth et al. put into organizing a festival like this. How dare you bitch about having MORE choices of seeing music that you like. Hopefully you understand as Seth explained clear as day, it was overlap or no Built to Spill at all.
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Get yours early. The Rave’s CD will be available at Exile and at The C-U Flea on Saturday. C-U Flea details here: http://www.smilepolitely.com/news/sp_radio_podcast_c-u_flea_arrives/